Revell Family Study

Carnfield Hall and Ogston Hall

Robert Revel born about 1690 at Carnfield married about 1714 unknown, born about 1694 Carnfield. Their daughter Frances born about 1715 at Carnfield, married Strelley Pegge 22 May 1735 at Brampton

Pedigree of Strelley and Pegge

The Pegge-Burnels inherited the Beauchief Abbey estates from the Strelleys, who obtained the property at the Dissolution

This prompted me to do further research and I find that St Michaels Church, Normanton which dates from around the 13th century contains a monument to a Robert Ravel who lived at the nearby Carnfield Hall, an early 17th century stone mansion built by the Revell family. The Ravells died out in 1797 and their successors, were the Radfords, who were in occupation in the last quarter of the 19th and first quarter of the 20th. The hall is now in private hands again and is listed Grade11 building. There are various papers about the Revell family of Carnfield Hall held at the The Historical Manuscripts Commission (HMC) , the organisation which created and now maintains the National Register of Archives (NRA).

Carnfield Hall 1884

Extract from: Old Halls of Derbyshire

Close by the boundary line which separates the parishes of Alfreton and South Normanton stands an old homestead once held by a branch of the Revels.This portion of Derbyshire is evidently not much frequented by the tourist, and yet the stroll from Ogston to Carnfield through the villages of Higharn and Shirland, is one of the most delightful in the county. George Revel was living at Carnfield Hall when lie purchased a moiety of South Normanton from Lord John Sheffield, in the sixteenth century. The manor was then in moieties, and remains so still. Then with the Sheffields and Longfords, now with the Radfords and Cokes. The Sheffields inherited from the Babingtons, who possessed it from marriage with the Staffords, who acquired it by espousing the heiress of Sir Alured Sulney or Solney, Knight of the Shire . The Sulneys, of Newton Solney, in Repton, held a knighthood for five consecutive generations. Sir Alured was the last of his line. He purchased the lordships of South Normanton and Pinxton from the Le Wynes in 1347, but his co-heiresses took his lands to the Staffords and Longfords. The Le Wynes had acquired South Normanton with the heiress of Ralph Le Poer, who had been granted it by the De Alfretons.

The family of Heriz possessed Ogstone and Brackenfield, then called Brackenthwayte, in the reign of King John. Sir Richard Willoughby held Brackenthwayte under the Deincourts in 1369. About this time Ogstone became the property and seat of the Revels. The sisters and coheiresses of William Revel, Esq., who died in 1706, married Richard Turbutt, Esq., of Doncaster, and Sir Paul Jenkinson, Bart., of Walton near Chesterfield. The whole of this estate is now the property, and Ogstone the seat of William Turbutt, Esq. Mr. Turbutt purchased a moiety of John Woodyeare, Esq., of Crookhill near Doncaster, who married a grand-daughter of Lady Jenkinson.From: 'Parishes: Mackworth - Mugginton', Magna Britannia: volume 5: Derbyshire (1817), pp. 202-217. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=50732. Date accessed: 04 February 2008.

A branch of the Revels was at Carnfield as early as it was at Ogston. John, the founder of Ogston House, was brother of Hugh of Carnfield. They were not joint lords of Normanton for two centuries after locating themselves here, but they survived their cousins of Ogston by two generations, for the), were not extinct till 1770, which was sixty-four years after Richard Turbott had married the heiress. We say extinct! In the legitimate line, we mean ; for Lieutenant-Colonol Tristram Revel, who died in 1797, was what our idiom denominates a natural son of his father. Thomas Revel, the founder of Shirland Chantry, in the fifteenth century, made ample provision for the repose of his soul, if masses were ought effective, for he conditioned for thousands of them to be said.

The last Revel of Carnfield left his moiety of South Normanton to his relative, Sir John Eardley Wilmot, of Berkswell, the celebrated Lord Chief justice, who refused the Great Seal and a peerage. But the Judge allowed Colonel Tristram to enjoy the estate for his life, and the property not to revert till the grandson of the Chief justice had become entitled. Early in the present century this moiety of Normanton was acquired by Thomas Radford, whose wife was Isabella .

Carnfield Hall was undoubtedly built by one of the Revels, and I've fancy from the architecture, by George, some three centuries back-say about 1567, just when the Cokes were purchasing the other moiety of the manor from the Longfords. The old building seems to speak very plaintively to us, from the associations of the Revels simply, for there has been scenes within its walls that would make an amazing sensational page.

In the " Nielbourn Papers " there are some particulars of the Carnfield Revells." One letter dated 7th August, 1634 from Edward Revell to Sir John Coke, Secretary of State.

Extract from: Old Halls of Derbyshire

Richard Bullock, living about 1484, whose wife was Isabell Hunt of Ashover, was evidently the first of his line to hold the lordship of Unstone. His son Philip mated with Margery Revel of Carnfield, and had William, who married Grace Needham of Snitterton ; whose son Edward married Joane Parkins of Rotherham ; whose son Ralph married Barbara Shaw of Brampton ; whose son John. rnarried Anna Harrison, of Glutton ; whose son George married Abigail Mower, and had a daughter and heiress, Anne, the wife of John Lathom, of Unstone Hall and the Hallowes - Source

1602 Scope and Content
Articles of agreement made between Robert Collyor of Ogston gent, and Edward Revell of Ogston gent.

1. Recites that Robert has married Margaret Edward's mother and in her right has the profits of Ogston during her life, that Robert and Edward both wish to live at Ogston, therefore it is agreed that Edward will pay Robert £200
2. If Margaret is living at a given date in 1607, Robert Collyor will pay to Edward £100, in default of which payment, Edward may enter the premises
3. Robert Collyor will allow for Edward, wife Jane, their manservant and maidservant, food, bedding, lodging, fire and candlelight for 60 years if Margaret lives so long, also sufficient grass, water and pasturing within the demesne lands for 2 geldings or 1 gelding and 1 mare and hay, water, stabling and straw for them (further details given), also 20 strikes of oats according to Chesterfield measure annually
4. If Robert dies within 60 years and Margaret then refuses payments etc under 3, Robert's heirs will pay £200 to Edward and Jane
5. If Edward and Jane prefer to live elsewhere than at Ogston, Robert Collyor will pay them such sums as named arbitrators specify.
6. Edward will allow, on the death of Margaret within 60 years, to Robert and one servant boy, food, bedding, lodging, fire and candlelight, and grass, water and pasturing for a gelding or mare, with hay, water, stableroom and straw, also 20 strikes of oats annually (as under 3)
7. If Robert prefers to live elsewhere than at Ogston, it is agreed as under 5
8. If Robert survives Edward and Margaret and Edward's heirs refuse to pay Robert as under 6 then they are to pay him £100
9. If Edward and Jane have children Robert will allow them, so long as they remain at Ogston, food etc as arbitrators specify.
10. Detail relating to the arbitrators (called overseers in this agreement)
11. Agreement with reference to Margaret Collyon who is unaware of the terms of this document that Edward does not wish to remain with his mother without her "good likeinge" and if Edward and Jane realise they cannot continue at Ogston with Margaret's consent Robert will pay them £200 or they may have the profits etc of Ogston (further detail) for 4 years
12. Further general arrangements relating to the estate, including a reference to a messuage near the Ford occupied by John Curtis
13. Robert will leave and give to Edward the 'seelinge', glass, wainscot and windows in the dining parlour and the new bedstead in the great parlour, all other glass, doors and windows in and about Ogston provided they are not removed in Margaret's lifetime
14. Arrangements for settling disputes

1642 Scope and Content
Notes or directions "delivered" by Edward Revell of Ogston "purporting my last will & Testament", endorsed probate, abstracted. To wife Alice household stuff and personal estate (debts owing to Edward excepted) to younger children of brother Robert deceased - William, Jane, Dorothy, Alice, Anne and Elizabeth and to Francis son of Edward's deceased brother George, £100 to be equally divided between them.
Wife to have her corn ground free of toll at Higham Mill
Servant Christopher Elliott to have house, croft and 2 closes called Butt Dykes for his and his wife Isabell's life, rent 12d annually
To brother John, all Edward's property, paying £40 annually to Edward son of Robert Revell deceased
To servant John Wharton, house at Woolley which he has built upon Revell's land for the lives of John and his wife, rent 1d, 40s each to servants
£100 charged upon testator's personal estate to be changed instead upon his other estate and lands
Executor brother John Revell (19 Apr)

Reference: D37 M/F12/1